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slice1
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 Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: That Swine flu vaccine... |
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Just want to put this up to make people aware of these vaccines,i been seeing and reading a lot about the flu/swine flu vaccine and how they causing a lotta side effects and even worst..be careful!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MIm1mB7GM&feature=player_embedded |
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Amaze
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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fox 5 news is full of shit.
even if this is legit, they can't say for sure if it's the vaccine that did it.
I don't plan on getting vaccinated but if I do it won't be at my local grocery store lol. |
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slice1
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Amaze
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: |
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well it makes sense that they are making billions. the media has been scaring us for months now nonstop about this flu. naturally there is a high demand for vaccinations all over the world as a result.
ironically they are now trying to scare us from the vaccine.
I agree there should be more testing before it gets released to the public, but people are scared and they demand to get it now, whatever the cost.
p.s.
the whole autism caused by vaccinations issue has been thoroughly debunked. |
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singuista
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| I hate fox news just as much as everyone else. But they're right. This is the same vaccine they used during the the last breakout in the 1970's. The main side effects causes some syndrome (I forgot the name) that makes your white blood cells attack your nerves causing paralysis. The vaccine ended up killing more people than the actual swine flue itself. |
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slice1
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Amaze
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| singuista wrote: | | This is the same vaccine they used during the the last breakout in the 1970's. The main side effects causes some syndrome (I forgot the name) that makes your white blood cells attack your nerves causing paralysis. The vaccine ended up killing more people than the actual swine flue itself. |
it's true that the vaccine killed more than the flu back then. the 60 minutes segment explains why. the people in charge were obviously completely incompetent.
however, we are not using the same vaccine as back then, I don't know where you'd get that idea.
from what I can tell we have 3 vaccines this year, 2 of which are seasonal called influvac and begrivac. they don't contain quicksilver and other additives and are meant to prevent regular flu only.
then there's
pandemrix which is intended to prevent swine flu. it was first developed in 2004. approved for the public in 2009.
now here's the interesting bit. the guillain-barre syndrome is a known side-effect from vaccines. from the 76 vaccine the chance was 1 in 100,000. ever since then the number has dropped to 1 in 1,000,000 or none at all.
BUT, the risk of developing the syndrome after contracting the flu is 4-7 out of 100,000, 40-70 times more likely than regular flu vaccines.
you can read more about pandemrix here:
http://www.emea.europa.eu/influenza/vaccines/pandemrix/pandemrix.html
there's also tamiflu and relenza, but I think those are for treating patients already sick.
I'm starting to lean towards getting vaccinated at this point. not because I dont want to get sick but because I dont want to infect people that are in the high risk groups. which is likely, seeing as I take public transport every day. |
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slice1
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Amaze
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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This is from this years amazing meeting, they had an anti anti-vax panel.
He even addresses the author of your first link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap_0uQDbZl4
why vaccines are good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFVE8csrcRw
I didnt bother checking your second link there. alex jones is a toad.
your first link doesn't really mean anything. it may not even be in use, it could be something they are experimenting with. all it has is the patent and it makes several assumptions of the motives behind it.
your second link has a rather old article on adjuvants. as far as I know adjuvants are needed to ensure vaccines actually work. I think the jury is still out on wether it's bad or good for you.
3rd link. seasonal flu shot does nothing, nothing to protect you from swine flu. he even has the balls to say no vaccines at all work. I'm starting to dislike this site already.
I never said they don't use mercury at all. however the mercury they use is not the same as what you find in batteries. and the amount used is well within safe levels. you get more mercury in your system from food within a week than you do in a vaccine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el5jYoaoV_E
| slice1 wrote: |
Pandemrix was developed by GlaxoSmithKline,the same company that also developed a cancer 'vaccine'(it actually suppose to prevent a virus that causes cancer) in which they are looking into after a 14 yr. old girl died just moments after taking it,and a few girls got ill...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8279656.stm
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1 person in over 1 million? come on, cause is even unknown. unless a bunch of girls have died from the vaccine since I don't think it's anything to worry about.
well, every country in the world that can afford will want vaccines. of course they are gonna cash in, it's not like they are running a charity. but the article says that developing countries get a discount and that they are giving away 50 million doses for free.
that is pretty fucking serious. I hope whoever responsible for that got fired. but it seems they cleaned up the mess and no humans were infected, luckily. I think we can call this human error, not malicious intent.
seriously, stop posting this site. the author is mad. finding lies in media isn't hard but the guy is off his tits.
I understand you are concerned but not everything is a conspiracy.
my only reservation right now about the vaccine is that we still don't know if some people will have bad reactions to it down the line. luckily I'm not in a risk group as they call it, but I have to consider the people around me as well.
also keep in mind that flu season in the northern hemisphere hasn't really started yet. come february, at it's peak we are going to see a lot of swine flu going around. they have done tests on rabbits and they infected each other as far as 10 feet away from each other:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iK4gPpgaSI |
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slice1
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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^^I guess we gonna have to agree to disagree on this issue...I will say this though,for our sake i hope ur right  |
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Amaze
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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if not, feel free to tear me a new one in 6 months  |
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J Bigglesworth
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| good looks on the info fellas |
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slice1
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Just wanted to give a quick update on this..It seems that the UN agency WHO is investigating the handling of the flu pandemic, as some are accusing it of conspiring with the big drug companies to push the vaccines.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BL2ZT20100112 |
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CALDK1
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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here's some more info on the topic of vaccination. My opinion, eat healthy, find natural remedies and leave that shit alone. What shit? Cloned food, legal drug (you cure one thing and get 5 others), shit stay out of the hospital if you can ( how many people do you know who have gotten ammonia and died in todays world of modern medicine, me 3), shock the shit out of your muscles machines to get more muscle, cosmetic and diet surgery, and vaccinations.
http://quicksilverscreen.com/watch?video=157484 |
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